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Full Circle with The Christi Reece Group
Redlands 360 & Goetzmann Custom Homes - Full Circle with The Christi Reece Group
Christi sits down with Phil Goetzmann, Owner of Goetzmann Custom Homes, and Jane Quimby, Project Manager for Redlands 360, for this month's Full Circle Podcast. Hear about this new Grand Junction, Colorado development with its focus on 360 degree views, commitment to recreation and access, integrating into the community, and offering a diversity of housing options as the different phases of the neighborhood unfold.
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Speaker 2:The Full Circle podcast, compelling interviews and incredible tales from Colorado's Western Slope, from the mountains to the desert. Christy Reese and her team here from the Movers Shakers, and characters of the Grand Valley and surrounding mountain towns that make the Western slope the place we all love. You'll learn, you'll laugh, you'll love with the full circle. Hi everybody, and welcome back to the Full Circle Podcast. I'm your host, Christy Reese, and I'm really excited today to have our guests and talk about one of the most , uh, incredible projects in Grand Junction , um, residential living, which is Redlands 360. So we're here with the project manager, Jane Quimbee, and also one of the custom home builders, Phil Getman. So welcome.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having us. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, so Jane, let's start with a little overview of Redlands 360 and how this project has come about because it's , uh, a lot of people know about it, but they don't know the scope of it and how it got got to be where it is right now. Sure.
Speaker 3:So, Redlands 360, it's a , what we call a master plan community. Uh, it's a little bit different than typically what you see , uh, a round grand junction. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, it's a long term project, probably a 25 to 30 year build out time. It started , uh, with the acquisition or partnership with a landowner who has owned the land that's associated with Redlands 360 for many years. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And he essentially wanted to finally develop the land that he's held all this time. The original intent of the land was for it to be a executive links golf course Right . To kind of a companion with Redlands Mesa. And then as time evolved, and golf courses probably were not viewed as that much, you know, not as desirable and , um, also not profitable mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , as a residential real estate , uh, market. And so we partnered with the landowner , um, as the developer and as, as we like to say, he had the canvas and we get to paint it. Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Speaker 2:And you are a member of La Plata Communities. What's the name of your organization? Fully La Pla
Speaker 3:La Plata Communities.
Speaker 2:La Plata Communities. I thought so. Um, out of Colorado Springs. But you , um, Doug is your brother, and, and he has a history here as you do in Grand Junction, so some people have said, well, this is a out of town person coming in to develop the Slam , but not really <laugh> .
Speaker 3:No. Uh, we've obviously, we grew up here. Uh, Doug's had a long history of property development, primarily in El Paso County in Colorado Springs area. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And we actually looked at this property like buying it outright , um, going back more than 10 years ago and partnering with the landowner , um, that we're partnering with, with now. But it's always been a really cool piece of property. And because of our ties to the Valley , uh, it was kind of, I guess we look at it as someone was gonna build on it at some point in time, and we wanted to make sure that it was built right. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. We wanted it to be something that the community would embrace , uh, as a positive project and something that long term was gonna be a desirable place for people to live. And so, even though, I mean, Doug's obviously living in Carter Springs predominantly, but he's over here and I'm local, and that's kinda how I got wrapped into the project. He was coming over here to look at things and talk through things, and people were always coming up to me saying, your brother needs to know this, your brother needs to know that <laugh> . And pretty soon it was like, well, maybe you should just hire me. Mm-hmm . Um, and that's, that's how I ended up. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you've done a great job with the PR around this project and the communication around this project, because obviously anybody that's familiar with the location knows that it's been a recreation , uh, area for a lot of the residents, even though it's always been private land, the landowner has allowed people to recreate on it graciously. Um, but one of the wonderful things about the project you have planned is that it keeps a lot of the open space and the trails intact.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I think that comes from recognition that, number one, we wanna be a good neighbor. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , we didn't want to come in here . And there were plans over the years for that piece of property that people would really not have been very happy with. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And our part of it's our community vision , uh, in terms of the projects we've done in Carter Springs, but the idea was to embrace the recreational aspects of the property and utilize that as kind of a promotional sales thing. Those lots sell themselves because of the recreational amenities that you have. So rather than get rid of those and just create a massive housing complex, people wanna live there because of the recreational values that we share. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , as part of the vision for the community. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. It's 660 acres in total, correct?
Speaker 3:It's actually 620 acres.
Speaker 2:Six 20, okay. Yeah. And how much of that will be open space? Roughly
Speaker 3:30% is designated open space, but that's even a little bit misleading because obviously once we plan out the various filings, there's gonna be additional open space that will be create within,
Speaker 2:Within
Speaker 3:A filing Exactly. Within a filing. But just in terms of the broad perspective or outlined development plan sets out the number of acres that are set aside currently. Uh , and it's roughly 30% of the overall property.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Phil, I wanna , um, turn to you now and talk a little bit about , um, building in this area. So you have been building since you were a young man of 21, I read right ? It was yesterday. Yesterday, just a few years ago. Uh, but primarily in the , uh, Colorado Springs area. But you , uh, came over to look at this project and really fell in love with this area and, and wanted to build some custom homes here. And , um, tell us about your experience in , uh, the Redlands 360 project so far. Well , and come closer to the mic for me.
Speaker 4:We, we ended up here because Doug , um, Jane's brother called me one day and he said, I understand your boys go to CMU. And I said, that's right. And he said, well, Phil, I think you need some lots over here, <laugh>. And my reply was, how many lots do you think I need Doug
Speaker 2:<laugh> <laugh> ?
Speaker 4:So , um, we have built in La Platas communities for some years, and we , we love their communities. We love La Plata . They do a , an amazing job. They are the premier developer in Colorado Springs, and we love their subdivisions , uh, because mostly because they have value mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , when things get tough, other subdivisions didn't do so well. And, and La Plata subdivisions because of what they are , uh, did very well mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so we came over here and we started building in Canyon Rim and , uh, and then moved up to Easter Hill mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. And , um, one of the things I know about La Plata communities, my experience with them so far is one of the reasons they're , uh, subdivisions do so well is because they're very meticulous about how they plan and the CCNRs and the architectural controls.
Speaker 4:That's right. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . So, and , and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think every lot connects to open space and, and they do that in Colorado Springs as well, which is a really super unique , uh, development trait. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Of La Plata .
Speaker 2:Very unique. Yes. And right now in Easter Hill, that's 51 lots total. There's only two builders there, you and another builder. But we're, you're building beautiful custom homes, and we had one in the parade of homes, and I hope a bunch of our viewers and listeners got to go see it, but if not, happy to show it to you anytime . Um, building some gorgeous homes up there, and , uh, yeah , a lot of them are on that bluff, which , um, is open space behind with unobstructed views. It's just spectacular.
Speaker 4:It's, it's amazing. The views are just incredible up there. Everybody has a view. Mm-hmm <affirmative> .
Speaker 2:Absolutely. So , um, after Easter Hill, Jane , um, um, what's the next filing that you all are working on?
Speaker 3:Well, actually, right , uh, about a week and a half ago, we turned in our next application to the city. Uh, the next phase we call filing two is going to be known as the, at Redlands 360. Uh, it is 125 lot multi-family development. It's essentially gonna be attached town homes . Mm-hmm <affirmative> . At the corner of South Camp Road and current South Broadway or Redlands Parkway, depending on your perspective. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Uh , and that's going to be , uh, kind of built in probably two primary phases, although we're not phasing it per se, but we'll start on the west side of that parcel. Uh, and around 50 some units there and 70 some units on the other side. When I say the other side, it's bisected by wetlands. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so rather than trying to figure out like, Hey, how can we like, get rid of this problematic wetlands? We, in our design of that community have embraced the wetlands , uh, made some really cool trails. There's actually gonna be a pedestrian bridge that will cross the wetlands instead of a road Nice. Uh , to promote the walkability and more community aspect. And then we'll have some park land and open space mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , within that community. But that's the next phase. And we're hoping that depending on the city process, which can be challenging, we're hoping that we'll start moving forward with some preliminary construction over there, just grading and starting to get the roads in, in late spring. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . With , uh, buildings starting hopefully this summer,
Speaker 2:And not only some multifamily, but some commercial aspects to that corner as well. Correct.
Speaker 3:Yes. There are a couple of, I think it's five acres roughly, of commercial. We'll have commercial pads , uh, and that'll kind of evolve over time. We don't have a specific plan. We're not gonna go ahead and develop out those pods or those, those pads right now. Um, but that is part of the future of that parcel. And the idea there is to make that more of a community centric mm-hmm <affirmative> . Commercial side where maybe a coffee shop, we'd love to have a rooftop bar. Yes. Um , maybe a , uh, you know, small type of , uh, restaurant , uh, not a big, you know, draw, but something that if you live in that community, you could walk over and grab a cup of coffee and a pastry or a sandwich. Um, we're also talking about potentially maybe a childcare facility. Uh, that's a real need, not just in the Redlands, but certainly in Mesa County, but particularly in the Redlands. There's just nothing like that out there. And incorporate that type of commercial and embrace the recreational aspects, because eventually that will be connected to the 600 acre parcel up top with, with trail heads and bike lanes. And so
Speaker 2:That will be one of the primary access points up into the, the bigger part of the development? Correct. Yes. Okay. I think a lot of people have trouble visualizing where all the connection points are gonna be. So one is gonna come through the current Canyon Rim area where we have lots for sale and, and doing some custom homes there. Um, what , what a lot of people call the Ben Knight Hill <laugh> , uh, because we all ride our bikes up there. Right . Um, so they'll, that'll be access, that'll go then all the way down to 23 road, correct.
Speaker 3:Correct. So 23 road, and that's what we call filing three. Uh , we're actually submitting that next Monday. Uh, that is , uh, at its core just a road filing. It's not specifically associated with lots that we've developed or identified so far other than geographically. Uh , but we will be building an entry road , um, that will basically be a , at an extension to the south of 23 Road, and a realignment of the existing roads over there to bring us into that , um, area of the parcel. And then to your point, the corner parcel, the corner Redlands 360, we'll have a road that goes through it, and then it actually snakes up the hill and we've got preliminary design. Um, but that will be a primary entry as well. Okay.
Speaker 2:Um, and as far as phasing goes , um, I know a lot of people think, oh, there's just gonna be giant homes up there. It's, you know, obviously it's a very desirable location, and the Redlands tends to be a little bit higher value and a lot of it's homes and construction, but you're gonna have all types of , um, properties, sizes of lots, and I'm assuming there's gonna be some bigger lots eventually that are bigger than what we have in Easter Hill. But talk about the phasing and what you envision for the different neighborhoods.
Speaker 3:So over the course of time, this is, like I said, a 25 year plus project. We will have some custom homes, but I think in the outline development plan, you know, we're talking about a minimum. I think , uh, the proof plan by the city is between 1300 and 1600 units. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , the overall plan, the true custom homes, like maybe something you'd see at Redlands Mesa is a very small percentage. I think it's somewhere around 75 custom homes. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so the focus will really be on a diversification, I'd like to say, diversification of people, product and price. The idea is that everyone can't afford, and now even a million dollar let you know that that's become more of a, a floor , uh, it's , it's crazy mm-hmm <affirmative> . But the idea is that you shouldn't have to have a million dollar home to have a million dollar view. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So our goal is to be able to incorporate a number of different types of products, whether that be town homes , we may have some apartments, we may have some , uh, patio homes, like more of a type of place where you don't have, it's like an over 55, you know, low maintenance , uh, type thing. Uh, the idea is just to have a number of diverse products mm-hmm <affirmative> . That people at different price points and stages of their lives , uh, would like to be mm-hmm <affirmative> . And still take advantage of all the recreational amenities we have in the community.
Speaker 2:Yes. And Phil , um, speaking of different price points, you're offering , uh, quite a, a wide range of price points in the Easter Hill area, starting in the low sevens for a beautiful unobstructed view, lot with a gorgeous home there. Talk about the different homes that you're building.
Speaker 4:Well, and , and going back to what Jane said, there's, we have what the developer calls segmentation. So different builders get different lot sizes. So we, we try and offer different price points , uh, so that we cover, you know, we cover a wide variety of , uh, affordability mm-hmm <affirmative>. So we started about seven 50 and , and go north from there. Um, the most expensive home we've sold to date was about a million mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um,
Speaker 2:And , and that home has a lot of square footage. Ranch with a walkout basement. Yes . Mm-hmm <affirmative> . With about 3,800 square feet.
Speaker 4:Right. It seems unusual that we do walkout basements here. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Where , uh, back in the springs , uh, you know, every chance we got, we got , we did a walkout basement. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And the walkouts are selling really well here. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Yeah. It's a nice feature. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. Um, that , uh, Easter Hill area, the lots tend to be , uh, I don't wanna say smaller compared to what people are used to. They're more like the Redlands Mesa. So they're not one acre lots by any means, but the, the idea is to kind of cluster the homes so that the open space is there. And is that the same , um, kind of development you have in Colorado Springs? Typically with La Plata ? It
Speaker 4:Is. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , going back to segmentation, you have 50 foot lots, 60 foot lots, and in , and in Colorado Springs, we have 70 foot lots, and I think at some point we'll probably have 70 foot lots here. We will . And it's, it's all based on , uh, price point. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Yep . So the flatter lots, we do crawl spaces mm-hmm <affirmative> . And , uh, in the steeper lots we do walkouts mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. And , um, the views , uh, on the backside on that , um, I don't wanna call it a cliff, but a bluff maybe. Um, really gorgeous. But then you get the book Cliff views up there too, which Oh yeah. Are stunning.
Speaker 4:We , uh, you know, our forte seems to be outdoor living mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so, and we do that on the front of the house and the back of the house. And , uh, it'll, it's, it's so awesome that , uh, you know, the neighbors can walk the street and you can sit out on your front porch and offer 'em a cup of coffee in the morning. Right.
Speaker 2:And then just down the street, there's a trailhead and that will remain intact. Correct. At least a small parking area there, or we not know yet.
Speaker 3:Actually, that trailhead will evolve into a complete park , uh, paved , uh, in the future complete park node. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . A true trailhead right now. The parking lot that's there was done as an accommodation for the current users. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, and, and those aren't necessarily people, probably not people that live in our community, but they were people that have traditionally been using that land. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , and eventually they're will actually be a park as well as a trailhead at That's wonderful location.
Speaker 2:That's wonderful . That makes a big difference for the buyers in that neighborhood, don't you think, Phil? Oh,
Speaker 4:Absolutely. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Um, you know, grand Junction seems to be all about outdoor living.
Speaker 2:It does. And when I'm up there at the model home, I can't tell you the number of people that I have walking the door that say, you know, we moved here from Denver four years ago and we couldn't be happier. We can't believe the access that we have to recreation, and we're telling all of our friends they need to come this way too. And I think it , this is the , um, the kind of community a lot of people wanna live in.
Speaker 4:It's true. Uh, you know, a fair amount of our buyers come from their front range, and , uh, because it's, you know, again, the recreation and it's, it's a slower pace. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> . It's Jane, can you talk a little bit about the other amenities that Redlands 360 community is planning down the road?
Speaker 3:Well, I think , uh, and we have a , a master plan park and open space plan mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , which is publicly available , uh, and accessible. Uh, and that includes 11 different parks of varying sizes. Uh, I think we have seven separate trail heads , uh, and we'll have other open space that's not developed, but just trails. And I don't , I don't even know the total number of miles of trails , um, that we have or that we will eventually have. That's a kind of an ongoing process. Uh, so obviously the trails themselves are probably the biggest amenity. And then at some point in time in the future, we probably will have some type of a community amenity. And one of the things that we're really good at is listening to our residents. Like, what do you want? Uh, we know from experience certain things that sell well and that are desirable for people, but this is a different type of community. I mean, obviously, probably one of the top things we've heard from people is a pool, a community pool. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, and some type of maybe meeting space , uh, and that the , uh, construction and development and design of that amenity , uh, will be over time mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, as we develop the property, the various phases and kind of hear from our residents, it's really important to us. The one thing I think we've consistently heard as a community pool, in addition, we have four plateaus. We call the four brothers, and we've committed.
Speaker 2:Yeah . So if you're up at the Easter Hill area, you can see them very clearly. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we've committed to not doing construction of houses. Uh , they would make beautiful unsurpassed lots Right . To put houses up there. Yes. Um , but we've made a commitment in terms of our planning and vision that we'll have amenities to kind of connect those. And those may be things like a hiking trail or developed hiking trail. Uh, it may be some type of a , you know, covered gazebo , uh, some type of observatory where you could look through , uh, some, you know, a telescope or whatever. So there will be some interactive things to do. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, again, just embracing the outdoor lifestyle and recreational type things. What we don't wanna do is shave off the top of a hillside and put 20 houses up there. And so that's part of, again, part of the experience that when you say amenities, the true thing for us is going to be very well designed. Yes . And interactive type recreational things. Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Speaker 2:I think that's something that we talk about a lot up at the model home at Easter Hill, is when you look out over that landscape saying mm-hmm <affirmative> . There's not gonna be a huge house perched on the top of those hills. Right . So that it feels like it's imposing on everybody else.
Speaker 4:One thing La Plata does really well is what they call pocket parks. So, you know, maybe it's, maybe it's as simple as , uh, a bench where you can sit down and , and have a , a bottle of water. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , they do that really well,
Speaker 2:And maybe some art installations. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . That's what I saw in your, some of your projects over in Colorado Springs. Well,
Speaker 3:And we have a lot, we've been partnering with a local artist . Many people here are familiar with Jeff Bates. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, Jeff did some landscape sculptures for us. Uh, he started in Canyon Rim, and those we've carried over to Easter Hill. We're talking to him about doing some design for our roundabout. Uh, we wanna embrace sculpture and public art as part of our , uh, you know, vision , uh, for this community. Uh, and to Phil's point about the, you know, the pocket parks, those are, you know, available for our residents mm-hmm <affirmative> . But they're also public accessible, you know, for the greater community.
Speaker 2:And, and I wanna thank you for the art installations. And I think anybody that has , uh, been up there will see that that's just a , a symbol of the caring and design that you put into your projects. There aren't any other monuments or entries like the ones that, that I'm aware of. I think they're just beautiful. Love you .
Speaker 3:Thank you . Thank you.
Speaker 2:The sculpture and the modern design of it, it's really nice. So obviously this is , um, there's some public land there. I think some people have been concerned that this will be a gated community. Um, we talked about maybe a pool and a community center that would be reserved for community members, but the trails will remain open to the public. Is that correct?
Speaker 3:That's correct. And one of the things, one of our parks will be, and we have an agreement with the city , um, will be like a city type park where we may have, and we've got preliminary design. There probably will be pickleball courts, there will be an amphitheater, there will be some type of a shade structure, picnic structure, field space, you know, that sort of thing on a bigger scale of what you might expect of a city type park. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, as well as smaller parks that might just have a climbing wall or some type of apparatus like you see over at Los Colonus , or do Rios, you know, a little smaller concentrated area. And all of those , uh, facilities will be accessible for the public. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , so the pool, and, and that'll be to determine at a later point, but let's say we have a pool and maybe we have a fitness center, and we might have some private pickleball courts or whatever it ends up that we do, but the, the city park type that I was describing in the park pocket parks that Phil's describing , uh, you know, you're out for dog will have dog parks, so you bring your dog, you know, that's not restricted to just residents . Mm-hmm <affirmative> . That's something that the public can come, they can park at a trail head , they can jump on their bike, they can just take off walking and take advantage of any of those amenities.
Speaker 2:One of the things that occurs to me as a, a real estate agent is, you know, when I see a new project opening, I know that if you get in the ground floor, you're gonna have a very valuable piece of property down the road. And we think about what people can purchase now in the Easter Hill area and coming up on the corner. And then the , the incredible value that they're gonna get with the amenities that are gonna go into the future is, it's just mind blowing . Like, get in now people. Right. <laugh> , this is a good time. Well , I
Speaker 3:Think Christie , we've seen with the Easter Hill, like people come and they , and there , it's almost like the fear of missing out. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And they might want a bigger lot, they might be wanting more of a semi customer. I'd like a 70 foot lot, but you know what, there's something available now on a 50 foot lot or 60 foot lot, and it's made so that you can like graduate and go someplace else. Or maybe you then decide, I've been on a 60 or 70 foot lot, I really wanna go maybe down to a townhouse. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So within the community, that's the whole idea. You could actually age out in place mm-hmm <affirmative> . Over time, depending on the type of product that you wanna live in. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. And , uh, along with the segmented , uh, structure that you talked about with a variety of prices and styles, you know, we have houses that are great for families with kids. We have houses that are great for retirees , uh, single level . You know, I, I think a lot of people that live in the Redlands , um, uh, want that one level lifestyle. Um, but we have a variety of homes for all kinds of buyers.
Speaker 4:The , the models that we have, we like to think, cover all those bases. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. Phil in Colorado Springs, you all are pretty familiar with metro districts, is that correct? That's true. And , um, not a, a problem or a question is something that you've been developing and building with , uh, for a number of years.
Speaker 4:I would suggest to you that all the new , uh, communities that are being developed at this point have a metro district. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. It's a fairly new concept for Grand Junction. We've got a couple of them here, but Redlands 360 is a , in , in total is a metro district, correct. Jane? Yes. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Could you explain to our listeners a little bit about what that is?
Speaker 3:I guess the easiest way to describe it, it's kind of a funding mechanism. Uh, the types of things that we're doing. Uh, if you took this property and relied upon the city or the county to put in parks, to put in trail heads to maintain trails, it would never happen. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh, they could have the promise of, oh, someday there's gonna be a park. And we've seen locally match it park as an example, where it's sat for decades until the city had the ability to do that. And so a metro district provides a funding mechanism for us , uh, which is based on mill Levy, and there's a calculated process that you go through, which also allows us to utilize, it's part of your property tax bill. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , mills are set by the district, and there's some very, very strict rules about how metro districts can function. And we've utilized metro districts in all our communities in Colorado Springs very successfully. It's just relatively a new concept here. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And what that also allows us to do, yes, you're going to be paying for these great amenities that we have, but it also changes a little bit the dynamic of the, what people here are familiar with the HOA fees. Right. Uh , so right now, like in our communities, and Phil actually has a place in Canyon Rim. He pays zero HOA fees, however, as part of his property , annual property tax bill, he is paying into the Metro district. And then we utilize those funds for maintenance of the landscape. The city has no responsibility as far as maintaining our trails, keeping our parks up, taking care of anything. We use the Metro District as a funding source to create and maintain a community that is at a level that you just wouldn't get with just normal city or county services. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. So when people are looking at their , uh, assessor record and their tax bill, there's gonna be an extra line item on there for the Metro District in addition to the other items that they are charged for in their taxes. Sure.
Speaker 3:So, like, typically on a property tax bill, now you might have something if you're in a water district, if you're in a sanitation district, the school district mm-hmm <affirmative> . The various mill levies that are set out. So the people that reside within our community would have a separate , uh, line item for me , rather 360 Metro District mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative>. And, and that is , uh, deductible on your taxes as well. I mean, that's, it's part of your tax bill, so there's an advantage in that regard. Correct.
Speaker 4:So Jane has to set aside parks is part of the development. The , the city mandates that. So Jane takes that park space and enhances it now because she has the, the funds to do that. Whereas if you didn't have the Metro District, it would sit there and grow weeds. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . So our, our customers have the benefit of enjoying , uh, this beautiful space now, and it gives the community value.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Definitely. Well, I, I hope that , um, people that have questions about the Master district will call us, call you, get in touch, because I think some people have been nervous about it, but it's really a , a brilliant solution and it provides for so many great things in the community. Totally. Is, yeah. Um, not to say that people will never have HOA dues there, is that correct? Yeah.
Speaker 3:As an example, for instance, the Townhome project that we're gonna do , uh, there may be some features for those town homes that wouldn't make sense in a single family residential development, say at Easter Hill. And that might be something like community or collective trash , uh, or snow. Not that we get snow, but snow plowing sometimes . Um, landscape maintenance, you know, there, there might be some different things. A future apartment building, it may make sense in addition to this potential community pool, but maybe we decide that as part of the apartment complex, they have their own pool. So it's a little different than, oh , okay, well I've got the community pool. But if you live in those apartments, you've got your own pool dedicated to just your residents . So there could be in the future HOA fees that would be associated with special restricted community amenities that would not be otherwise available. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> . Okay. And , um, we talked a little bit about the phasing and going to the corner next, and then , uh, 23 Road Roundabout. Is that right? On Broadway? Yeah.
Speaker 3:There will be a 23 road roundabout at Highway three 40 . Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , and 23 Road and filing three that we just are gonna submit on Monday is actually an internal roundabout, which is the extension of 23 Road to the South. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , and then the next phase of actual units will be just south of the existing Easter Hill. Uh, we're calling that filing four . Uh, and that will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 to 50. Again, single family , uh, typical residential lots, that'll be varying sizes. Maybe 50, 60. I don't know if we're gonna hit to the seventies yet, Phil. Um, but similar to Easter Hill, you know, custom , uh, in terms of the lot sizes mm-hmm <affirmative> . Um , same kind of price point. And then we will look at next down the road might be some more higher density that the pa we , I hear a lot patio homes, people want low maintenance, single level , single level ranch patio homes, that
Speaker 2:There's a real demand for that for sure. Yeah . Yeah .
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm <affirmative> . And so we're always trying to let the market tell us what , and our potential buyers, what do you wanna see next? And trying to be nimble and figure out, okay, here's what we need to do at this particular location. And it's just gonna evolve over time and terms of what the market desires and what people are buying. Mm-hmm <affirmative> .
Speaker 2:I know I've been to some of your community meetings and you all have been really , uh, good about holding meetings and being transparent, allowing people to come ask questions and showing them what's going on. Do anything coming up in that regard? I know we just, you just had one about 23 road.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, we just had one about 23, and I actually just two na two nights ago had a meeting with neighbors, a subset of the people from the 23 road meeting , uh, to just share some information. The city participated in that with us. Uh, so we, under the current approved plan, we're not required to do typically these community meetings. It's just a thing we do mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , because we want to be good neighbors and we don't see any value. It works to our disadvantage if we become kind of this cloistered, well, we're already approved, and so we're gonna do whatever we wanna do, and we don't care what the neighbors say. We're always constantly trying to reach out to the community and take concerns to heart. And there's things that we don't think about that are important to people. And so I think we, that's one of the hallmarks I think of our company, is that we want to have that public face and that interaction and that, that buy-in from the community, because those are the people potentially that are gonna buy these houses mm-hmm <affirmative>. And be all in and help promote our community. Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Speaker 2:Um , Phil, I, I'm sure when you came to see the project initially , uh, probably brought a big smile to your face is it's a beautiful piece of property. It's , um, surrounded. I mean, it , I called it the donut hole, you know, was , um, uh, development all around. And I know that there was a big push by , um, a lot of people in our community to try to get it to remain open space, but just not feasible , uh, to have the city or the land trust come in and buy something like that. Is that happened in Colorado Springs as well? Do you get people that are saying this needs to remain open? But
Speaker 4:Of course, everybody's got the mentality of , uh, not in my backyard mm-hmm <affirmative> . And , uh, but the reality is, you know, LA Plata is being a wonderful steward of the property. I agree. Uh , as are the builders up there. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Um, done a really great job with the development so far. Gotta come up and see it. And , uh, it's just beautiful. Yeah. And the , the views are stunning. Mm-hmm <affirmative> .
Speaker 2:Um, Jane up at the top of the hill is the water tower and the , uh, repeater, whatever the cell tower. How do those fit into the development up at the top of the hill?
Speaker 3:Well, the water tower, actually, there's a little piece of property up there that is owned by Ute wa , the Ute Water District, and that's one of the primary feeders. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , for people out on the Redlands, and then some of the communications equipment. Um, thankfully for people that are here, Verizon , um, I think the city also has a tower up there, and that's part of a , some lease agreements with the current property owner. And those, it's a strategic location, and so we just have kind of learned that we have to embrace that. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . You know, we can't get rid of the water tower. Yeah . We're probably not gonna get, people wouldn't want us to, like, what do you mean I'm not gonna have my Verizon Tower , um, on the Redlands anymore. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Uh , and so those are things that , uh, are on property that is not ours. Some of it is ours, and we'll just incorporate that as much as we can. As an example, that Ute Water property up there, there are numerous trails that transect that property. Yes. And we went to Ute Water and said, look, we would like to partner with you because people are going to be riding their bikes and hiking and walking across your property, and we don't wanna claim a trail system that we don't own. And they were wonderful to work with , uh, and said, yeah, we'll work with you guys and we'll allow public access across our private property as part of your trail system. And there's some things that we need to work out in that agreement with them. But again, that's just part of our ability to work with stakeholders and partners who embrace our vision as well to serve the community at large. Uh, and we, we kind of joke about what can we change the color of the , uh, <laugh> ? Can we show films, you know , on the , uh, you know, on the side of the , on the side of the tower, the tower , um, can , can we decorate it with Christmas lights, <laugh> ? Um, so that's just one of the natural things that's there that we have to kind of embrace. And what we found in previous projects is some people, again , it go, oh , I don't want that in my backyard, or in my view shed. And then there are other people that just, it's like, it's just always been there and it's there. And so they don't even notice it. Right.
Speaker 2:And is there a connection to the golf course community at Redlands Mesa?
Speaker 3:Uh, believe it or not , uh, we've had some discussions both with the city and we've talked to the Redlands Mesa folks, and our ultimate goal would be to have some type of a connection, whether that is some type of a sidewalk paved path, golf course path. We've had some preliminary discussions with, with the city to allow golf cart , uh, vehicles in our community, because it makes sense. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Right now, you can have golf carts at Redlands Mesa and out near book Cliffe Country Club, it takes the city ordinance. So we've already started having those kinds of discussions. They're , it just makes sense. They're
Speaker 2:Regulated on the streets, but Correct . Not that they don't want 'em on the sidewalks. Right, right . Mm-hmm <affirmative> . They want 'em on the streets. Mm-hmm <affirmative> . Yeah .
Speaker 3:Yeah . Yeah . So we'll look at, because we think that's a natural partnership mm-hmm <affirmative> . With them, it'd be great for us to be able to access, so you go over and you go to the restaurant, you could go play golf. Um, and our community members, the residents that we have, we think that would be appealing to them. And it's just trying to figure out the logistics of the best route and how we make that work. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> . Well, I appreciate your time today. I think this is , um, just an amazing project. And, and I know as we talked about, even though so many people would love for it to stay open, space just wasn't a possibility. And so, if it's gonna get developed, I'm so happy that La Plata has , has partnered , uh, with the , um, landowner to make this just the best community possible with lots of open space, lots of , uh, strict guidelines on buildings so that the homes that are being built are top quality and fitting in with the natural surroundings. Right. How many different , um, uh, design elements are in the homes that you're building now, Phil? There's a mid-century modern, well ,
Speaker 4:Right. We have three, three different models mm-hmm <affirmative> . And within those three different models, every model has a minimum of three different elevations, whether that be mid-century, modern , uh, modern gable, Prairie , um, oh , what's another one? We
Speaker 3:Also allow Desert,
Speaker 4:Modern desert. Modern
Speaker 2:Modern desert.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So
Speaker 2:It's very cool. All of those design elements have to be approved by the right overall developer to keep some uniformity, the developer ,
Speaker 4:The developer sets, and , and it's very unique and <laugh> in , in all their subdivisions that the developer sets the style of home that can be built. It's fabulous. And, and every, every development that they do is, has a, a mark that, a trademark that you can see , uh, that's special. Mm-hmm
Speaker 2:<affirmative> . Yeah . You know, a La Plata community when you see it, when you come into it in Colorado Springs. Yep . Yeah. Yep . Well , um, I hope that our listeners and viewers will take the time to learn more about the project, call us to have a tour , um, look at the homes that we're building, but also learn about the overall project and what the possibilities are for ownership for them in the future. Um, because I think it's just a , a , a , a wonderful place to live and a great community. So,
Speaker 3:And Christie , I just wanna say we do have a website, Redlands three sixty.com mm-hmm <affirmative> . And this is perfect because this is your full circle podcast. Yes. And our tagline is Redlands 360, live Life full circle.
Speaker 2:Yep . Oh , that's great. Yeah. And you do have 360 degree views up there, don't you? Yes, we do. Yeah . It is beautiful. Well, thank you for your time today. Anything else you'd like to share? Thanks, Christy . And you have a, we appreciate this. You have a website too, Phil? We do. It's
Speaker 3:Getman homes.com . Mm-hmm <affirmative> .
Speaker 2:So you can look up information on Redlands 360, the development and Getman Homes . And we welcome your phone calls , uh, to learn more about this project. And happy holidays to both of you. You , you , for having us . Thanks for being here . Us . Okay . Thanks . We'll see you next time on the Full Circle Podcast. Have a good holiday, everybody. Bye. Thanks for listening. This is Kristy Reese signing out from the Full Circle Podcast .